Comments on: Ministry to Gay Students

By: Chris Stump

Chris Stump — Fri, 07 May 2010 13:25:20 +0000

Manofgod, Christ does free us from the bondage of sin. We are no longer subject to it, because He has given us the Holy Spirit and power to resist sin. Does that mean we will never sin again? No, but Christ gives us the power to resist sin. When we turn our thoughts and desires on Christ, He ultimately changes our inward feelings, wants, and desires to align with His. I can tell you that in my 7 years of walking away from homosexuality Christ certainly has freed me from sin and has changed my feelings and desires. For several years in the beginning it was a constant battle with my flesh. I wanted to give in so badly, and often did with pornography. But as I have matured in the Lord it no longer is a constant battle with my flesh. I still have temptation, but my desires and feelings have shifted. I no longer want these feelings to have control or occupy my mind endlessly. My same-sex attractions no longer have control over my thoughts, feelings, or desires. Christ has control over all these things. I can’t tell you if there will be a time you don’t feel these feelings, but I know for me, these feelings no longer preoccupy my mind. They come up every now and then, but they don’t affect me like they once did. Because I see them for what they really are, temptation. It’s just temptation that can be resisted. Things may seem bleak right now, but keep pushing forward. Pursue Christ with all your heart, get into a great community of believers that you can be real with and who can pour into you. I can’t promise these feelings will go away, but I can promise you that God is a big God and can handle these attractions.

By: manofgod

manofgod — Wed, 05 May 2010 18:09:38 +0000

It seems to me that almost all of the articles above address how
Christ “free’s” you from the sin. When in all reality he free’s
your from the condemnation of the sin, as long as you repent but,
where as most non-homosexual christians people do not know; It is
an inward feeling, want, desire and for most a need. Most gays feel
as if they cant stop thinking about the same sex and even have a
longing to be with the same sex. This feeling is closely related
and be discribed as the following: 1. If I give you the thing you
want the most, you will be… 2. If I hit you or call you a name
you will be… 3. If I break your favorite object you will be… 4.
If I do something nice for you you will be… Now before I anwser
those questons just remember what all these anwsers have in common!
1. Excited 2. Mad 3. Sad 4. Grateful If you cant tell, these are
all feelings, you can Not help but feel this way, (but you can have
self-control) Just like with SSA you feel it but cant control that.
What you can control is acting on it! Now my question is IS THERE
GOING TO BE A TIME WHEN I WONT FEEL THESE FEELINGS? Keep in
mind…I faithfully followed christ for several years but now I am
loosing my grip!

By: Ministry to Gay Students : Day of Truth

Ministry to Gay Students : Day of Truth — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:19:29 +0000

[...] This article will look at how youth workers can, and must,
help students who are facing such bullying in school – knowing that
these same things could be happening within local youth ministries
as well. This article is not calling to accept behavior that
clashes with Biblical beliefs, rather it’s calling for Christians
(especially those who are youth workers) to take a stand against
bullying, and start teaching the truth about sharing God’s
unconditional love with those who think they are undeserving of
such love. Read more [...]

By: arielmiko2

arielmiko2 — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:50:11 +0000

God can change anyone even if they do not want to. He can make us
all worship and believe in Him is he wanted to. The point is that
God gave us all “free will”. We can change or believe in Him is we
choose to. He desires us to seek him, believe in him, worship Him
and follow his ways. A person can change if they desire it, no
matter what they need to change. It may not be easy but why should
it? He made us so that we can depend on Him. He wants us to reach
out to him daily in any struggle we may have. He loves us with an
ever lasting love. His mercy and grace abounds much. Give him a
try, he’ll knock your socks off and you will desire to live with
Him!

By: ChristianKid

ChristianKid — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:49:38 +0000

I fully believe God can change anyone and deliever us from anything
in our lives. SSA is extremely difficult to deal with, but for some
reason we tend to think its harder for God to change us than to
say, change an alcoholic, murderer, or drug addict. I also believe
homosexuality isnt something that we are, but rather something we
do. Homosexuality is simply a symptom of what we TRULY are, and
that is a sinner. Our identity before we know Chirst is simply
“sinner” not alcoholic, not gay, not liar, etc. We are set apart
from God, not because of these “sins” but because of “SIN” I’ll try
to clarify the difference. Christ died to take away our “sin
nature” and as that nature is destroyed we are made new creatures
in Christ through His blood shed at the cross. So my identity is no
longer a “Sinner” But rather a “Son of God, who sometimes sins”
Even if I walk into temptation and sin with my SSA feelings, that
does not define me as gay, it defines me as a sinner saved by grace
when I walk in repentance. Paul said neither adulterers,
homosexuals, liars, idolaters, etc, will inherit the kingdom of
God. Paul is not talking about people who make mistakes, but people
who have not had their “sin nature” washed away by the blood of
Jesus.” He even makes that point clear by contininuing on to say,
“That such were some of you, but you were cleansed by the blood of
Jesus.” The people Paul was talking to had come out of those sins,
but I gurantee you that doesnt mean, none of those people ever
commited those sins again. Im sure that they did. But they
repented, turned back to Christ and received the grace that is
fully avalible to all who believe.

By: eac12890

eac12890 — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:53:07 +0000

Regarding the “debate” about whether homosexuality is “changeable”
or if “freedom is possible”, I think we all need to have a wider
perspective when it comes to sin and temptation itself. I believe
those who argue that homosexuality is not changeable have not fully
realized the implications of that lifestyle. It leads to death. For
me, I learned early on, that it literally was so empty and
unfulfilling as a life pursuit that I wanted to kill myself. I did
not kill myself, instead I sought the Lord’s will for my life and
have experienced a NEW kind of joy, peace, and love that I could
never have found in any sexual encounter or relationship with
someone of the same sex. The temptations, or SSA you feel, are real
feelings but they are distortions of what will truly fill you up.
They are based on lies. The temptation to sin is the enemy
attempting to lure you to live independently of God. When we depend
on God, we depend on His word, and His word is clear about
sexuality. When we don’t depend on God, and instead depend on our
physical feelings/temptations/surges, we are denying the truth that
can set us free, and instead settling for the temporary
relief that comes with following the flesh. The desires of the
flesh will never be fully satisfied. Look at gluttony for
example. No matter how much you eat, wait a couple hours and you’ll
be hungry again. You can have the best cake in the world, pudding,
ice cream, etc. and feel great for a while, but you are still left
empty in the long run. The same is with sex. The more you engage in
unhealthy thoughts/fantasies and act on them, the more your
appetite will grow for those sexual experiences. Same sex
attractions are temptations to live independently of God, just like
temptations to use drugs and temptations to lie, cheat, steal, etc.
Someone who struggles with drugs is chasing the temporary high. But
they can become sober and experience a relationship with God that
provides a high that drugs could only attempt to emulate. The same
is with those who struggle with same sex attractions. Homosexuality
is not an isolated issue…. We also have to remember that we were
all born into a fallen world and that “Satan has deceived the whole
world.” Revelation 12:9 We are all called to bring our struggles,
our flesh, and our temptation to the cross and follow Jesus. We are
in a spiritual war. God does not make your life easier, or the
world better. He makes you stronger.

By: stebran2

stebran2 — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:13:20 +0000

I believe that the carnal man may want to change different areas of
his life and may well be able to.He may search for peace,hope,
eternal happiness. He will for a time be happy. But without the
saving grace of our Lord and Savior there will never be “the peace
that passes all understanding.” As hard as one might try. “For
grace are ye saved through faith, that not of yourselves, it is a
gift from God.” So yes with God you can heal and be healed for a
lifetime, by confessing your sin to Christ, asking him to forgive
you and ask him to come into your life, Yes you may carry the scars
of your sin,but you can know that God sees them no more. The Holy
Spirit will show you Gods’ will and those scars will fade as they
are replaced with the things God has called us to do. Christians
are healed when we focus on becoming more like our creator,Yes we
will take our eyes off Him and stumble. God is right there to help
us up and forgive us,when we ask and continue on our focus and walk
with Him. The temptation to sin, any kind of sin is there 24/7 for
every Christian. We are not “cured” from ANY sin,be it cursing,
stealing, murdering, or lying. They weigh the same in the sight of
God. We can become healed. All I know is that the closer I walk
with God and focus on the things of God, the Holy Spirit helps me
resist temptations and shows me where to go for strength. I am not
a Bible Scholar or a Sunday school teacher. I’m someone who love
the Lord, has times of weakness and doubt. One thing I know is that
” I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me”. I have
no arguments with you, only the prayer that through this forum you
will trust Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior if you have never
done so. With love through Christ.

By: Awakeandalive

Awakeandalive — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:16:57 +0000

Yeah. Straight or gay isn’t who I am. What I am is a child of
Christ. Thanks Shawn.

By: Shawn Harrison

Shawn Harrison — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:02:10 +0000

Not exactly. What I am saying is that we shouldn’t be focused on
becoming straight … that’s not where our identity really is held.
Instead, we should be focusing on becoming more like Christ …
taking on God’s Identity for us – that’s where true freedom lies.
I’m not saying that we shouldn’t pursue a life that God desires (we
should be), but we should be focused more on who God has called us
to be rather than what we think we need to be. Make sense?

By: Awakeandalive

Awakeandalive — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 04:15:03 +0000

“The overall result is not to be straight, but to become more like
Christ.” Wait, you’re saying that I can be gay as long as I’m
focused on Christ, and not my homosexuality?