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		<title>By: ivan95</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have a very strong connection with all my friends but 2 of my guy
friends i really like. and the sad thing is that they go to church
with me. the only person who i told that i was gay is my sunday
school teacher (i have alot of confidence in her) but i havent told
her anything else. my question is how can i control my sin and at
the same time have a healthy relationship with those 2 friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have a very strong connection with all my friends but 2 of my guy<br />
friends i really like. and the sad thing is that they go to church<br />
with me. the only person who i told that i was gay is my sunday<br />
school teacher (i have alot of confidence in her) but i havent told<br />
her anything else. my question is how can i control my sin and at<br />
the same time have a healthy relationship with those 2 friends.</p>
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		<title>By: CaseyMFCoppola</title>
		<link>http://exodusyouth.net/2008/11/03/i-love-my-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-405</link>
		<dc:creator>CaseyMFCoppola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i use to get mad at my best friend and vice versa when new people
came around. this is so stupid. youre to anal about life. clam
down. live a little. take a step out of a church for once and see
the sun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i use to get mad at my best friend and vice versa when new people<br />
came around. this is so stupid. youre to anal about life. clam<br />
down. live a little. take a step out of a church for once and see<br />
the sun.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stump</title>
		<link>http://exodusyouth.net/2008/11/03/i-love-my-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-333</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bdevine91, I can tell you that I fell for a few of my guy friends in high school and college and there was nothing happy about it.  Emotional dependency is such a soul killer.  I was intoxicated with my friends and thought I was in love, but in reality I was obsessed.  I couldn&#039;t do anything without them, they couldn&#039;t do anything without me.  Any small thing I misread as rejection from them threw me into depression.  My source of identity and strength came from my friend.  That certainly wasn&#039;t happiness for me.  You ask if I am now in a healthy straight relationship and if I&#039;m truly happy being alone. I can tell you that I&#039;m much happier now, leaving those unhealthy emotions towards my friends behind.  The ultimate goal is not heterosexuality.  The goal is to walk obediently under Christ&#039;s lordship and leadership, despite our sexual feelings.  I can tell you that I am ready for a healthy relationship with a woman when it&#039;s God&#039;s timing.  I don&#039;t have to be in a relationship with a woman to validate that truth that God has changed and healed me.  A &quot;straight&quot; relationship is not the trophy you receive for pursuing Christ.  I&#039;m truly happy living my life obedient to Christ and trusting Him as my source of identity.  I&#039;m not lonely...far from it.  I walk in freedom today, knowing what my true identity is - THAT makes me truly happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bdevine91, I can tell you that I fell for a few of my guy friends in high school and college and there was nothing happy about it.  Emotional dependency is such a soul killer.  I was intoxicated with my friends and thought I was in love, but in reality I was obsessed.  I couldn&#8217;t do anything without them, they couldn&#8217;t do anything without me.  Any small thing I misread as rejection from them threw me into depression.  My source of identity and strength came from my friend.  That certainly wasn&#8217;t happiness for me.  You ask if I am now in a healthy straight relationship and if I&#8217;m truly happy being alone. I can tell you that I&#8217;m much happier now, leaving those unhealthy emotions towards my friends behind.  The ultimate goal is not heterosexuality.  The goal is to walk obediently under Christ&#8217;s lordship and leadership, despite our sexual feelings.  I can tell you that I am ready for a healthy relationship with a woman when it&#8217;s God&#8217;s timing.  I don&#8217;t have to be in a relationship with a woman to validate that truth that God has changed and healed me.  A &#8220;straight&#8221; relationship is not the trophy you receive for pursuing Christ.  I&#8217;m truly happy living my life obedient to Christ and trusting Him as my source of identity.  I&#8217;m not lonely&#8230;far from it.  I walk in freedom today, knowing what my true identity is &#8211; THAT makes me truly happy.</p>
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		<title>By: bdevine91</title>
		<link>http://exodusyouth.net/2008/11/03/i-love-my-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-330</link>
		<dc:creator>bdevine91</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 21:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sawah19 i fell for my best friend and ended up being together for
almost four years. ur sexuality should decide if if ur a sinful person 
or not would u rather loose the one ur with to be strait and unhappy
u cant help who you are and all the people responding to the other 
peoples questions you all have story&#039;s similar to the ones your 
helping answer me on this one thing are u now in a healthy strait 
relationship and are you truly happy now being lonely</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sawah19 i fell for my best friend and ended up being together for<br />
almost four years. ur sexuality should decide if if ur a sinful person<br />
or not would u rather loose the one ur with to be strait and unhappy<br />
u cant help who you are and all the people responding to the other<br />
peoples questions you all have story&#8217;s similar to the ones your<br />
helping answer me on this one thing are u now in a healthy strait<br />
relationship and are you truly happy now being lonely</p>
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		<title>By: ChristianKid</title>
		<link>http://exodusyouth.net/2008/11/03/i-love-my-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator>ChristianKid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realized I had SSA feelings and even a bit of emotional
dependency on my best friend. They started, or rather they were
their noticably strongest when I found out he was going to get
married. 2 months before he was to get married he moved in with my
family because his family was very large and it was difficult for
him living at home. When he moved in with us, I found myself pining
away for him to come home from his job or college classes. I
remember how much I just wanted to be with him and it broke my
heart knowing that he was soon going to be married. I knew he loved
and cared for me, but not in a SSA type of way, nor did he know I
felt that way about him. Knowing that he was going to get married,
meant he would never spend the night again, and that he would
always have the responsibility of taking care of his wife. This
deeply saddened me and I cried alot about it and prayed very deeply
for the Lord&#039;s strength. side note:(I also found that I loved to
wrestle with him (or wrestle with any guy I felt attracted to).
Horseplay and wrestling are an acceptable outlet for young men and
boys, but I knew with me, I liked it for the SSA reasons. It seemed
to be the only &quot;acceptable&quot; way to have contact with another guy
and not seem &quot;gay.&quot; I wonder if anyone else has experienced those
same feelings? Or if any other guys have used wrestling as a means
of feeling close to another guy, without actually doing anything
&quot;overtly sinful&quot;) That was 16 months ago. He has been so busy with
work, school, and marriage that I hardly ever see him, so the
feelings I had for him faded. But this Christmas break he was able
to come over often and hang out with me. Without warning, the old
feelings came flooding back and I am beggining to wonder if I
should even continue to see him. Not because im afraid anything
will happen, but just because it hurts my heart so deeply, seeing
him, and yet knowing I can never have the deeper relationship with
him before he was married, that I once had. I believe I just was
emotionally dependent on him, and wasnt even sure why. It has been
one of the most difficult experiences of my life. I do know though,
that even if he felt the same way for me, and never got married, I
would never be happy. As much as I love my friend, I love God more
and while it breaks my heart feeling the loss of a deep
relationship with him, I want to follow and be obedient to the
Lord. Though I continue to pray for God to change me, I have found
hope in my struggle. Though these SSA feelings are a struggle, I
also see them as an opportunity to offer my life as a living
sacrifice to God. What I mean by that, is if Jesus was willing to
give everything to save my soul, then should I not be willing to
give up my desire for another man, for the rest of my life if need
be, in order to honor him? Jesus died to take away my sin and was
crucified for me, so I will be crucified for Christ if need be and
deny myself what my heart yearns for. God change me! But until you
do, may your grace be sufficient for me to endure all trial and
temptation. Though I falter and stumble and many battles I may
lose, I will, by the grace and strength of my Lord Jesus Christ,
Win this war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realized I had SSA feelings and even a bit of emotional<br />
dependency on my best friend. They started, or rather they were<br />
their noticably strongest when I found out he was going to get<br />
married. 2 months before he was to get married he moved in with my<br />
family because his family was very large and it was difficult for<br />
him living at home. When he moved in with us, I found myself pining<br />
away for him to come home from his job or college classes. I<br />
remember how much I just wanted to be with him and it broke my<br />
heart knowing that he was soon going to be married. I knew he loved<br />
and cared for me, but not in a SSA type of way, nor did he know I<br />
felt that way about him. Knowing that he was going to get married,<br />
meant he would never spend the night again, and that he would<br />
always have the responsibility of taking care of his wife. This<br />
deeply saddened me and I cried alot about it and prayed very deeply<br />
for the Lord&#8217;s strength. side note:(I also found that I loved to<br />
wrestle with him (or wrestle with any guy I felt attracted to).<br />
Horseplay and wrestling are an acceptable outlet for young men and<br />
boys, but I knew with me, I liked it for the SSA reasons. It seemed<br />
to be the only &#8220;acceptable&#8221; way to have contact with another guy<br />
and not seem &#8220;gay.&#8221; I wonder if anyone else has experienced those<br />
same feelings? Or if any other guys have used wrestling as a means<br />
of feeling close to another guy, without actually doing anything<br />
&#8220;overtly sinful&#8221;) That was 16 months ago. He has been so busy with<br />
work, school, and marriage that I hardly ever see him, so the<br />
feelings I had for him faded. But this Christmas break he was able<br />
to come over often and hang out with me. Without warning, the old<br />
feelings came flooding back and I am beggining to wonder if I<br />
should even continue to see him. Not because im afraid anything<br />
will happen, but just because it hurts my heart so deeply, seeing<br />
him, and yet knowing I can never have the deeper relationship with<br />
him before he was married, that I once had. I believe I just was<br />
emotionally dependent on him, and wasnt even sure why. It has been<br />
one of the most difficult experiences of my life. I do know though,<br />
that even if he felt the same way for me, and never got married, I<br />
would never be happy. As much as I love my friend, I love God more<br />
and while it breaks my heart feeling the loss of a deep<br />
relationship with him, I want to follow and be obedient to the<br />
Lord. Though I continue to pray for God to change me, I have found<br />
hope in my struggle. Though these SSA feelings are a struggle, I<br />
also see them as an opportunity to offer my life as a living<br />
sacrifice to God. What I mean by that, is if Jesus was willing to<br />
give everything to save my soul, then should I not be willing to<br />
give up my desire for another man, for the rest of my life if need<br />
be, in order to honor him? Jesus died to take away my sin and was<br />
crucified for me, so I will be crucified for Christ if need be and<br />
deny myself what my heart yearns for. God change me! But until you<br />
do, may your grace be sufficient for me to endure all trial and<br />
temptation. Though I falter and stumble and many battles I may<br />
lose, I will, by the grace and strength of my Lord Jesus Christ,<br />
Win this war.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Carrasco</title>
		<link>http://exodusyouth.net/2008/11/03/i-love-my-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Carrasco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zaki, that usually isn&#039;t advised. there is danger that the person may return the comment and make it harder for you to stay platonic. usually, you tell someone you like them in hope that they would return the feeling, otherwise you just let it be and go on. 

what you can do is tell an accountability partner or a counselor. this way, you can walk through the attraction and understand perhaps why you feel it in the first place. For me, typically its based out of lack of connection or a longing to aquire some trait that I feel they posses but I lack. If I can confess my attractions to a safe third party they can help me process the attraction and overcome it. but the person you&#039;re attracted to can&#039;t offer that to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zaki, that usually isn&#8217;t advised. there is danger that the person may return the comment and make it harder for you to stay platonic. usually, you tell someone you like them in hope that they would return the feeling, otherwise you just let it be and go on. </p>
<p>what you can do is tell an accountability partner or a counselor. this way, you can walk through the attraction and understand perhaps why you feel it in the first place. For me, typically its based out of lack of connection or a longing to aquire some trait that I feel they posses but I lack. If I can confess my attractions to a safe third party they can help me process the attraction and overcome it. but the person you&#8217;re attracted to can&#8217;t offer that to you.</p>
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		<title>By: zaki3000</title>
		<link>http://exodusyouth.net/2008/11/03/i-love-my-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>zaki3000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it ever a good idea to tell a friend that you&#039;ve had a crush on that you&#039;ve liked them but that you don&#039;t plan on pursuing a relationship with them ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it ever a good idea to tell a friend that you&#8217;ve had a crush on that you&#8217;ve liked them but that you don&#8217;t plan on pursuing a relationship with them ?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Carrasco</title>
		<link>http://exodusyouth.net/2008/11/03/i-love-my-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Carrasco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your insight Sawah. Your experience is not unlike many I&#039;ve heard myself. If you&#039;re ok with being in a same gender relationship, then so be it. we welcome you anyway! 

But I did want to reply to a point you made. You ask: If God hates homosexuality, why would He make you that way? the truth is, no research out there proves that homosexuality is inborn. It can merely suggest it, and usually its politically motivated. If you actually read the research you find that it doesnt claim homosexuality is innate at all. some of the researchers themselves have come against this claim. In fact, I&#039;m currently reading some research published by a lesbian psychologist that chronicles the sexual fluidity of 100 women over a ten year span of time. (can we all remember Anne Heche?)

But again to God, He gives us free will. and the bible never claimed sin was going to feel bad, in fact if it did feel bad, it would not be tempting. One verse that struck me when I was involved in a fling was proverbs 27:7 &quot;To the man who is hungry, what is bitter tastes sweet. But the man who is full loaths even honey!&quot; in other words, bad love is better than no love. I wasnt happy in my relationship, but its all I knew and its what I had settled for. 

just because if feels good does not necessarily mean its good for you. let me ask this: If God hates adultery why do heterosexual men lust after women other than their wives? see? If we are christians, we must all strive to bring our sexuality under Gods authority. It is no different for people struggling with homosexuality or heterosexuality. There are not two set of rules, but one. 

much love,
Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your insight Sawah. Your experience is not unlike many I&#8217;ve heard myself. If you&#8217;re ok with being in a same gender relationship, then so be it. we welcome you anyway! </p>
<p>But I did want to reply to a point you made. You ask: If God hates homosexuality, why would He make you that way? the truth is, no research out there proves that homosexuality is inborn. It can merely suggest it, and usually its politically motivated. If you actually read the research you find that it doesnt claim homosexuality is innate at all. some of the researchers themselves have come against this claim. In fact, I&#8217;m currently reading some research published by a lesbian psychologist that chronicles the sexual fluidity of 100 women over a ten year span of time. (can we all remember Anne Heche?)</p>
<p>But again to God, He gives us free will. and the bible never claimed sin was going to feel bad, in fact if it did feel bad, it would not be tempting. One verse that struck me when I was involved in a fling was proverbs 27:7 &#8220;To the man who is hungry, what is bitter tastes sweet. But the man who is full loaths even honey!&#8221; in other words, bad love is better than no love. I wasnt happy in my relationship, but its all I knew and its what I had settled for. </p>
<p>just because if feels good does not necessarily mean its good for you. let me ask this: If God hates adultery why do heterosexual men lust after women other than their wives? see? If we are christians, we must all strive to bring our sexuality under Gods authority. It is no different for people struggling with homosexuality or heterosexuality. There are not two set of rules, but one. </p>
<p>much love,<br />
Frank</p>
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		<title>By: sawah19</title>
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		<dc:creator>sawah19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i ended up falling for one of my friends who was a girl and well it just caused a lot of upset in the end. i thought it was just because she was there for me and didnt question my sexuality for a minute untill i turned 15 and then i knew.

To cut a long story short we ended up falling out and we havent spoke since. 

Fait plays a tricky game and for thos of you who believe in god will realise that if he hated homosexuality so much then why would he make you this way!? 

I have a girlfriend now and i have been with her for naily 9 months and its been amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i ended up falling for one of my friends who was a girl and well it just caused a lot of upset in the end. i thought it was just because she was there for me and didnt question my sexuality for a minute untill i turned 15 and then i knew.</p>
<p>To cut a long story short we ended up falling out and we havent spoke since. </p>
<p>Fait plays a tricky game and for thos of you who believe in god will realise that if he hated homosexuality so much then why would he make you this way!? </p>
<p>I have a girlfriend now and i have been with her for naily 9 months and its been amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zapatos,

I suggested that it&#039;s not always helpful to tell your friend you&#039;re attracted to them, mainly because that will usually add a lot of awkwardness from him into the friendship. There are probably circumstances where it would be good to talk about it, but I would be slow to do so and seek insight from people who know both of us. Your situation may be one of them. But I would still couch the conversation less in terms of attraction and more in terms of what was going on in your heart.

Either way, you want want to address your sin and the awkwardness in the relationship, which is a good idea. Here&#039;s how I&#039;d approach it -- first take all the labels off it (homosexual attraction, whatever), and then try to get a sense of what&#039;s really going on.  (Might help to read this first: http://exodusyouth.net/2008/11/03/i-love-my-friend/).

What&#039;s on the surface of your heart tends to be things like romantic attractions, or jealousy. But that comes from things rooted deeper down in your heart, like loneliness, disappointment with relationships, rejection, sadness. (This may be the reverse of the way you&#039;re used to thinking of things, but it&#039;s usually the case). Rather than sharing the surface things, share the deeper things. 

Share how you don&#039;t have very many guy friends, and so tend to put too much expectation on one person to meet all your needs. Or how you feel upset when he hangs out with other people because you&#039;re afraid that means he doesn&#039;t like as much as you had hoped. Stuff like that.

What I&#039;m describing is Emotional Dependency (read about it here: http://exodusyouth.net/2007/11/15/emotional-dependency/)

Much more comfortable to explain to a friend how you&#039;ve become E.D. on them, and it&#039;s closer to the real heart of things anyway. The attraction usually stems out of the E.D. I doubt that the attraction itself caused the damage to your friendship. It was the E.D. that caused you to treat him so poorly.

And the really cool thing is that if the real problem is E.D., instead of attractions, it&#039;s something that both of you can work on. You can learn to create a network of friends instead of putting all your energy into one, and you can learn to give all of your heart to God instead of people. And your friend can learn to understand your emotional struggle, to set good boundaries in the relationship, etc.

The &lt;i&gt;Emotional Dependency for Guys&lt;/i&gt; booklet is mentioned in that article, and it has lots of good tips.

Does this make sense? I&#039;m not suggesting that you lie, or that you not tell him about how your SSA affected your friendship. What I&#039;m saying is that you help him understand it at a deeper level. The bottom line is that you have brokenness in your life, that has caused you to have SSA, and that has affected how you relate to guys. It messed up your friendship with him, unfortunately, and for that you&#039;re seeking forgiveness. But regardless you&#039;re going to seek God&#039;s healing, and work hard to become a relationally healthy person. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zapatos,</p>
<p>I suggested that it&#8217;s not always helpful to tell your friend you&#8217;re attracted to them, mainly because that will usually add a lot of awkwardness from him into the friendship. There are probably circumstances where it would be good to talk about it, but I would be slow to do so and seek insight from people who know both of us. Your situation may be one of them. But I would still couch the conversation less in terms of attraction and more in terms of what was going on in your heart.</p>
<p>Either way, you want want to address your sin and the awkwardness in the relationship, which is a good idea. Here&#8217;s how I&#8217;d approach it &#8212; first take all the labels off it (homosexual attraction, whatever), and then try to get a sense of what&#8217;s really going on.  (Might help to read this first: <a href="http://exodusyouth.net/2008/11/03/i-love-my-friend/)" rel="nofollow">http://exodusyouth.net/2008/11/03/i-love-my-friend/)</a>.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s on the surface of your heart tends to be things like romantic attractions, or jealousy. But that comes from things rooted deeper down in your heart, like loneliness, disappointment with relationships, rejection, sadness. (This may be the reverse of the way you&#8217;re used to thinking of things, but it&#8217;s usually the case). Rather than sharing the surface things, share the deeper things. </p>
<p>Share how you don&#8217;t have very many guy friends, and so tend to put too much expectation on one person to meet all your needs. Or how you feel upset when he hangs out with other people because you&#8217;re afraid that means he doesn&#8217;t like as much as you had hoped. Stuff like that.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m describing is Emotional Dependency (read about it here: <a href="http://exodusyouth.net/2007/11/15/emotional-dependency/)" rel="nofollow">http://exodusyouth.net/2007/11/15/emotional-dependency/)</a></p>
<p>Much more comfortable to explain to a friend how you&#8217;ve become E.D. on them, and it&#8217;s closer to the real heart of things anyway. The attraction usually stems out of the E.D. I doubt that the attraction itself caused the damage to your friendship. It was the E.D. that caused you to treat him so poorly.</p>
<p>And the really cool thing is that if the real problem is E.D., instead of attractions, it&#8217;s something that both of you can work on. You can learn to create a network of friends instead of putting all your energy into one, and you can learn to give all of your heart to God instead of people. And your friend can learn to understand your emotional struggle, to set good boundaries in the relationship, etc.</p>
<p>The <i>Emotional Dependency for Guys</i> booklet is mentioned in that article, and it has lots of good tips.</p>
<p>Does this make sense? I&#8217;m not suggesting that you lie, or that you not tell him about how your SSA affected your friendship. What I&#8217;m saying is that you help him understand it at a deeper level. The bottom line is that you have brokenness in your life, that has caused you to have SSA, and that has affected how you relate to guys. It messed up your friendship with him, unfortunately, and for that you&#8217;re seeking forgiveness. But regardless you&#8217;re going to seek God&#8217;s healing, and work hard to become a relationally healthy person.</p>
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